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08 November 2008

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Kerry Kleiber

Sandford has three major series (that I know of; I claim no expertise here): Kidd, Davenport, and Virgil ("That f-ing") Flowers. What I especially like about the three series is that, while they are not very closely connected (Davenport and Flowers come the closest), they are of all one world. Jeffrey Deaver is beginning to do that, too. (And, so is Faye Kellerman with her husband Jonathan's series. And, Jonathan has been doing it for a while with characters he's developed in his Delaware series.)

I really like the trend. Not quite sure why, but I guess just because it makes for a comforrtable setting with familiar characters.

cfr

Frosty,
Do check out Sandford's earlier work as I think there are some better novels there. I just didn't find this one of his best in the series. The Goth useage did not put me off; I just found the story a bit Sandford-lite.

If you are interested in Goth try out this one also: Season of the Witch from Natasha Mostert. More info here:
http://itsacrime.typepad.com/its_a_crime_or_a_mystery/2007/06/season-of-the-w.html
It's set in London and is very atmospheric, mixing a bit of crime with witchery and magic.

Thanks for visiting!

frosty7530

Hi, this is my 1st visit to your blog. I am currently in 1st 1/3 of Phantom Prey & really enjoying it! It's my 1st John Sandford bk. I'm glad to know you enjoy his writings, perhaps when I finish the bk. I will find more agreement with you, but for now, it's the first really enjoyable read I've had in ages! I had read another mystery in a goth culture setting & was so disapponted! (author was Lisa Jackson, it was first (and probably last bk. of hers I will read, not up to my standards at all).

I am a 61 yr. old ex-hippy & very fascinated with goth sub-culture. 20 yrs ago, at age 40, I felt too self-conscious to explore it, at Grandma-age, I feel anything goes, & who has to know what I explore on PC & on written page! I also enjoy mysterys, my favs are Tess Gerritson, Jonathan Kellerman & Tami Hoag. There are lots of talented writers & not enough time.

Could it be a disinterest in a goth setting that may have turned you somewhat off to the book? I'll have to check out some of Sandford's earlier work.

Awua

Save for one rather large problem, I love the Prey series.

The writing is usually good, fast-paced (although I wish Sandford would overcome his affection for the run-on sentence). The plots are done well enough (although a seasoned mystery reader can usually figure out the little detail in Chaper 3 that warranted more attention than it got). But the very best part of the series is that the villains are almost always YOWZA! freaky and evil.

However...

The dragon in the room is the main character. To me, Lucas Davenport is one of the most disgusting lead characters in the thriller genre. I know Sandford said that Davenport would never get away with the stuff he does in real life, that he's a "movie star" of a character, but... He's so movie star he's as shallow and two-dimensional as one, and he goes too far over the line in nearly every novel. There's bending the rules, like Harry Bosch or John Rebus do, and then there's shattering them until they're meaningless, Davenport's specialty. He has as much remorse as a psychopath after the awful things he does. Too often, it seems like the only thing separating Davenport from the killers he chases is the badge he wears. I simply cannot sympathize with him. In a few of the books, a part of me has even rooted for the bad guys to get away/outsmart Lucas, just to bring him down a few pegs. You're not supposed to root for the bad guys!

The repulsive lead character is the only reason this series is in my second-tier of favorite mystery series, rather than top-tier, like Bosch, Rebus, Milhone, Banks and Warshawski. It's why I wait until the Prey books hit the bargain bins before buying. A shame, really, because I want to like the series.

Maxine

Agreed, Tom, there are several authors like this - Peter Temple is another one. Why aren't they best-sellers when you look at Brown and Patterson?
(There are also crime best-sellers who deserve to be there, eg Crais, Connelly and Coben.)

Clare D

'comfort-blanket-with-pin-ends-in-every-thread' ha, very good!

Maxine

I hate the titles of these books - snappy they may be but I can never remember which I have read when the next one comes out, as they are all too similar. I have read quite a few of the series and agree, they are generally very enjoyable and I think under-rated.

Tom Bale

I've not yet read Phantom Prey, but even if you found it slightly disappointing I'd thoroughly recommend Invisible Prey. I thought it was as strong as any in the series. I've recently gone back and re-read some of the early books, and it's interesting to see how Davenport's character became a lot less brutal as the series developed. I think you might be right about a second series character. Dark of the Moon was certainly a promising start, though I wouldn't say it was quite at the level of the "Prey" books in general. But I'd also recommend that anyone new to reading John Sandford starts with the early novels. I've always felt he's been sadly overlooked in this country - his books combine the great characterisation and settings of the best police procedurals with the pace and plotting of the best thrillers. In my view he should be out-selling James Patterson, Dan Brown and the like!

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